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Ralph Wiggum
04-23-2008, 12:37 PM
The team over at Billszone.com has once again produced its annual draft guide for any and all football fans to see. They would like to invite you to come and check it out at;

http://www.billszone.com/drafthtml/BZDraft2008.pdf

Sincerely,
Billszone.com Staff

Ralph Wiggum
04-23-2008, 12:38 PM
The guy who prepares this is pretty sharp. Take a look at it. It takes a few minutes to download, so be patient.

welkjfoiuwesadfmnweoipufawee
04-23-2008, 12:40 PM
This draft guide is seriously amazing.

Great work over there by the billszone guys.

FaggotPig
04-23-2008, 12:58 PM
All I have to say is WOW!!!

slowpokemcgee
04-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Wow, 94 pages. That's quite impressive work.

FaggotPig
04-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Everyone doing the mock draft event has to use this.

treydawg
04-23-2008, 02:02 PM
Wow, this draft guide is unreal. Absolutely awesome job, Dilbert.

DraftBoy
04-24-2008, 10:35 AM
Im glad to see you guys are enjoying this! I appreciate the props Dilbert as I am the main author of the guide. If you have any comments/questions/criticisms feel free to post them and Ill try and check back in and respond. Thanks guys and continue to enjoy the guide!

treydawg
04-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Im glad to see you guys are enjoying this! I appreciate the props Dilbert as I am the main author of the guide. If you have any comments/questions/criticisms feel free to post them and Ill try and check back in and respond. Thanks guys and continue to enjoy the guide!

A few of us have a man crush on James Hardy. What do you feel he needs to work on most at the next level to be successful? What do you think about his route running? I've heard people on this board criticize it but from the couple games I've watched of his he seems to run crisp routes.

welkjfoiuwesadfmnweoipufawee
04-24-2008, 10:38 AM
A few of us have a man crush on James Hardy. What do you feel he needs to work on most at the next level to be successful? What do you think about his route running? I've heard people on this board criticize it but from the couple games I've watched of his he seems to run crisp routes.

I feel that he needs to stop murdering babies and women.

Once he gets over that, he'll be fine.

treydawg
04-24-2008, 10:40 AM
Great post Jay.

DraftBoy
04-24-2008, 10:53 AM
A few of us have a man crush on James Hardy. What do you feel he needs to work on most at the next level to be successful? What do you think about his route running? I've heard people on this board criticize it but from the couple games I've watched of his he seems to run crisp routes.

Hardy is an intriguing prospect for the most part. As you know he was listed at 6'7 in his media guide but he is actually only 6'5 (he is also like 3/8 inches but I dont include that) so he is shorter than advertised he also is extremely raw in my opinion. He needs to work on his focus on the field. I saw him numerous times lose interest when the ball wasnt coming his way. He would run sloppy routes and be off timing wise. His blocking leaves a lot to be desired and his off field problems are a concerned (I dont care what Chris Brown says about that). However what Hardy possesses is a rare blend of size, speed, and athletic ability. When he is on his game he is almost impossible to cover. He needs to get stronger and be more physical as he got intimidated by the bigger and stronger Big 10 CB's but that can come with time and coaching. Overall I see Hardy as an ideal choice for Buffalo in Round 2. If his head is in the right place he could be #1 WR in this league, if its not he'll fall by the way side.

treydawg
04-24-2008, 10:57 AM
Hardy is an intriguing prospect for the most part. As you know he was listed at 6'7 in his media guide but he is actually only 6'5 (he is also like 3/8 inches but I dont include that) so he is shorter than advertised he also is extremely raw in my opinion. He needs to work on his focus on the field. I saw him numerous times lose interest when the ball wasnt coming his way. He would run sloppy routes and be off timing wise. His blocking leaves a lot to be desired and his off field problems are a concerned (I dont care what Chris Brown says about that). However what Hardy possesses is a rare blend of size, speed, and athletic ability. When he is on his game he is almost impossible to cover. He needs to get stronger and be more physical as he got intimidated by the bigger and stronger Big 10 CB's but that can come with time and coaching. Overall I see Hardy as an ideal choice for Buffalo in Round 2. If his head is in the right place he could be #1 WR in this league, if its not he'll fall by the way side.

He definitely seems hungry -- http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d806daf03

welkjfoiuwesadfmnweoipufawee
04-24-2008, 11:01 AM
You know, I said the same stuff about Hardy, and you guys almost killed me.

DraftBoy
04-24-2008, 11:02 AM
You know, I said the same stuff about Hardy, and you guys almost killed me.

Well Im glad we at least agree then!

welkjfoiuwesadfmnweoipufawee
04-24-2008, 11:04 AM
Ya, I don't think there is a legit #1 WR in this draft, plus there have been so many WR busts in the past. I'm a little skeptical on taking a WR in round 1. I don't know what they are going to do, but I don't think trading down is out of the question. A CB would be nice here too. But the Bills need at WR is HUGE. It will be a tough pick, that's for sure.

FaggotPig
04-24-2008, 11:04 AM
DraftBoy join our Draft Day Event http://talkbuffalosports.com/showthread.php?t=416.

FaggotPig
04-24-2008, 11:06 AM
Ya, I don't think there is a legit #1 WR in this draft, plus there have been so many WR busts in the past. I'm a little skeptical on taking a WR in round 1. I don't know what they are going to do, but I don't think trading down is out of the question. A CB would be nice here too. But the Bills need at WR is HUGE. It will be a tough pick, that's for sure.

Jay this draft is gonna be crazy. I can't name any pick that the Bills will for sure take.

Dirty Wizard
04-24-2008, 11:16 AM
Hardy is an intriguing prospect for the most part. As you know he was listed at 6'7 in his media guide but he is actually only 6'5 (he is also like 3/8 inches but I dont include that) so he is shorter than advertised he also is extremely raw in my opinion. He needs to work on his focus on the field. I saw him numerous times lose interest when the ball wasnt coming his way. He would run sloppy routes and be off timing wise. His blocking leaves a lot to be desired and his off field problems are a concerned (I dont care what Chris Brown says about that). However what Hardy possesses is a rare blend of size, speed, and athletic ability. When he is on his game he is almost impossible to cover. He needs to get stronger and be more physical as he got intimidated by the bigger and stronger Big 10 CB's but that can come with time and coaching. Overall I see Hardy as an ideal choice for Buffalo in Round 2. If his head is in the right place he could be #1 WR in this league, if its not he'll fall by the way side.

I watched a lot of IU football this year and I have to say that I didn't see him run sloppy routes at all. He did have trouble with jack ikegowonu(sp?) god damned african last names! However, I thought he ran decent routes and got really nice separation from corners.

but I'm also pro-hardy and tend to think him behind doucet is a bit of a stretch.

I do like desean jackson as 6th, perfect placement for him. tiny joke that he is

DraftBoy
04-24-2008, 11:31 AM
Ya, I don't think there is a legit #1 WR in this draft, plus there have been so many WR busts in the past. I'm a little skeptical on taking a WR in round 1. I don't know what they are going to do, but I don't think trading down is out of the question. A CB would be nice here too. But the Bills need at WR is HUGE. It will be a tough pick, that's for sure.

Well I dont know that Id go that far Limas Sweed is probably as close as you're going to get as far as sure fire #1's go but his wrist still is not healed by all reports that Ive seen. If that can get back to 100% he is probably the top WR in this class.

Personally though I think we should be taking DRC at #11.

Dirty Wizard
04-24-2008, 11:33 AM
Well I dont know that Id go that far Limas Sweed is probably as close as you're going to get as far as sure fire #1's go but his wrist still is not healed by all reports that Ive seen. If that can get back to 100% he is probably the top WR in this class.

Personally though I think we should be taking DRC at #11.

can I ask why the love for sweed? watching him play at texas and seeing him in person when texas played osu in columbus, I never really got the wow from him when I watched. I saw a guy who is interchangeable with cosby and pittman, just taller.

DraftBoy
04-24-2008, 11:36 AM
I watched a lot of IU football this year and I have to say that I didn't see him run sloppy routes at all. He did have trouble with jack ikegowonu(sp?) god damned african last names! However, I thought he ran decent routes and got really nice separation from corners.

but I'm also pro-hardy and tend to think him behind doucet is a bit of a stretch.

I do like desean jackson as 6th, perfect placement for him. tiny joke that he is


His cuts aren't crisp enough for me, he rounds off his hitch routes, and he can take a bad angle when running the quick slant which can allow the LB to jump the route.

Not only did he have issues with Ikeg, but Vontae Davis (Illinois) also gave him trouble and those are both guys who get up in your face and love to jam. When you give Hardy a free release like Justin King (Penn State) did against him he goes off (14 catches, 142 yards, 2 TD).

DraftBoy
04-24-2008, 11:39 AM
can I ask why the love for sweed? watching him play at texas and seeing him in person when texas played osu in columbus, I never really got the wow from him when I watched. I saw a guy who is interchangeable with cosby and pittman, just taller.

Because he does everything well, he catches the ball, he runs routes, he rarely makes a bad play, he is a leader, and he is polished. Sweed has great size (as you have mentioned) and good speed. My biggest concern with him is his concentration lapses (which seems to be something a lot of WR's suffer from in this class). He can disappear during games and he has to remain focused. When he does that he is hard to cover.