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    He was awarded $2.4 million?

    Holy shit I would have run, not walked away from that.

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    The arbitration system is all about offensive numbers. MacArthur had a very good year, especially in the early part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalofan19 View Post
    The arbitration system is all about offensive numbers. MacArthur had a very good year, especially in the early part.
    Thirty-five points is a very good year? He's a 30-point player, which has been proven the last two years. Dime a dozen.

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    agreed I looked it up seriously 13 goals gets you 2.5? I"m ashamed for the market right now.

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    Time to go back onto Bleacher Report to make fun of that crappy writer who said MacArthur is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalofan19 View Post
    The arbitration system is all about offensive numbers. MacArthur had a very good year, especially in the early part.
    LOL. I don't come here much, but enough to see you are very full of yourself at times. Since when is 16-19-35 a very good year? And since when is it worth $2.4 million? Oh, and thanks for the primer on arbitration, none of us have ever followed the NHL before (see Ales Kotalik arbitration award vs. Dumont's - stupid Darcy).

    If MacArthur can keep going like Wayne Primeau mysterious did, then he may have something. I'm not holding my breath. Maybe MacArthur can duke it out with Richard Park & Jon Sim for a spot on the Islander's roster or something.

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    FWIW, Darcy saw this coming and basically got a free 3rd and 4th round pick. It's the type of minor deal Darcy excels at. I wish he excelled at making big deals instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikgaes View Post
    LOL. I don't come here much, but enough to see you are very full of yourself at times. Since when is 16-19-35 a very good year? And since when is it worth $2.4 million? Oh, and thanks for the primer on arbitration, none of us have ever followed the NHL before (see Ales Kotalik arbitration award vs. Dumont's - stupid Darcy).

    If MacArthur can keep going like Wayne Primeau mysterious did, then he may have something. I'm not holding my breath. Maybe MacArthur can duke it out with Richard Park & Jon Sim for a spot on the Islander's roster or something.
    Let's put it this way. Kennedy's arbitration award will probably be about a million less because of the 9 fewer points he had last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalofan19 View Post
    Let's put it this way. Kennedy's arbitration award will probably be about a million less because of the 9 fewer points he had last year.
    Kennedy won't get to arbitration...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikgaes View Post
    LOL. I don't come here much, but enough to see you are very full of yourself at times. Since when is 16-19-35 a very good year? And since when is it worth $2.4 million? Oh, and thanks for the primer on arbitration, none of us have ever followed the NHL before (see Ales Kotalik arbitration award vs. Dumont's - stupid Darcy).
    Kotalik never made it to arbitration. He signed a 3 year deal before his hearing.

    They couldn't get Dumont done before his hearing, and they chose to walk away from his award.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eSabre View Post
    Kotalik never made it to arbitration. He signed a 3 year deal before his hearing.

    They couldn't get Dumont done before his hearing, and they chose to walk away from his award.
    They decided that Kalinin, Kotalik, and Afinogenov were all more important.

    Whoops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acoustic-Fury View Post
    He was awarded $2.4 million?

    Holy shit I would have run, not walked away from that.
    They need to re-do arbitration.Take a look at what the Isles did today for Matt Moulson :

    Matt Moulson has avoided salary arbitration with the New York Islanders, as the club signed the restricted free agent forward to a one-year, $2.45 million contract on Tuesday (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=328630)

    So the arbitrators decided that Mac's 13 goals were worth 2.4 million and Moulsen nets 30 and his team signs him for $2.45 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    They decided that Kalinin, Kotalik, and Afinogenov were all more important.

    Whoops!
    Afinogenov - Team-leading 73 points in '05-06. His style of play was perfect for the post-lockout NHL. Of course they were going to keep him at that point. The season after re-signing, Afinogenov had 61 points in 56 games before breaking his wrist.

    Kotalik - Keeping him over Dumont was a big mistake, but I understand why it happened with him coming off a 62-point season. He was a homegrown player who had done a lone of good things here, and Regier likes to retain his homegrown players. He was wrong pretty much from the start, unfortunately, as Kotalik's point total fell to 38 in 66 games the next season.

    Kalinin - He was an absolute rock in '05-06. No-brainer to re-sign him back then.

    The real mistake was keeping Biron over Dumont. They should have dumped his salary in the summer of '06, signed a cheap backup and kept Dumont. Hindsight is always 20/20, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kritter65 View Post
    They need to re-do arbitration.Take a look at what the Isles did today for Matt Moulson :

    Matt Moulson has avoided salary arbitration with the New York Islanders, as the club signed the restricted free agent forward to a one-year, $2.45 million contract on Tuesday (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=328630)

    So the arbitrators decided that Mac's 13 goals were worth 2.4 million and Moulsen nets 30 and his team signs him for $2.45 million.
    There's two sides to this though. The Islanders actually had some leverage here. "Sure, MacArthur gets $2.4 million, but Atlanta walked away, and now he doesn't have a job. You'll get an even higher award from arbitration, but we'll walk away, and you won't have a job either". Moulson would probably get $3.5, maybe even $4 million. The Islanders wouldn't have signed him for that, and neither would anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calr View Post
    Afinogenov - Team-leading 73 points in '05-06. His style of play was perfect for the post-lockout NHL. Of course they were going to keep him at that point. The season after re-signing, Afinogenov had 61 points in 56 games before breaking his wrist.

    Kotalik - Keeping him over Dumont was a big mistake, but I understand why it happened with him coming off a 62-point season. He was a homegrown player who had done a lone of good things here, and Regier likes to retain his homegrown players. He was wrong pretty much from the start, unfortunately, as Kotalik's point total fell to 38 in 66 games the next season.

    Kalinin - He was an absolute rock in '05-06. No-brainer to re-sign him back then.

    The real mistake was keeping Biron over Dumont. They should have dumped his salary in the summer of '06, signed a cheap backup and kept Dumont. Hindsight is always 20/20, though.
    I understood it at the time too. But we're not general managers. We don't make those decisions. The problem with that list is that Regier allowed the wrong guy to walk. Dumont has had the best career by a sight. He's got the kind of game that so many Sabres teams have lacked since he left. Hindsight is 20/20. Hindsight typically isn't very good to Darcy Regier. He supposed to be paid to make the right decisions. That's the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalofan19 View Post
    There's two sides to this though. The Islanders actually had some leverage here. "Sure, MacArthur gets $2.4 million, but Atlanta walked away, and now he doesn't have a job. You'll get an even higher award from arbitration, but we'll walk away, and you won't have a job either". Moulson would probably get $3.5, maybe even $4 million. The Islanders wouldn't have signed him for that, and neither would anyone else.
    That's a solid point. But the Islanders are struggling just to get to the cap floor. They most likely would have signed him either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    They decided that Kalinin, Kotalik, and Afinogenov were all more important.

    Whoops!
    Or Kalinin, Kotalik and Afinogenov were willing to sign deals before their hearings, while Dumont held out trying to get more money. You can look at it any way you want.

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