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    http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article86184.ece

    After years of speculation that began in 2001, it was announced this afternoon that the Springfield, Mo.-based outdoor store will not anchor the downtown Canal Side development.

    A news conference by Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp. gave details this afternoon.

    Bass Pro was to be the centerpiece of the Inner Harbor makeover, a magnet for new shops and hordes of visitors. The Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp. was willing to subsidize a Bass Pro store by some $35 million. County government kicked in $14 million for nearby infrastructure improvements.

    At one time, Bass Pro was to go into the Memorial Auditorium. But the beloved but obsolete site of Buffalo sports history proved too problematic, so it was razed to give Bass Pro a shovel-ready canvas just steps from Lake Erie.

    The project burst into the region's collective consciousness in 2001, when then-Mayor Anthony M. Masiello touted the benefits of Bass Pro, then a growing retailer that chose its locations selectively.

    "They only open one store in a given region, and if they select Buffalo, we would have the only Bass Pro Shop in the Northeast," Masiello said in 2001. Since then, Bass Pro has opened stores in Auburn and Toledo, Ohio. Bass Pro also has shops in Harrisburg, Pa., Toronto and Cincinnati.

    Johnny Morris, Bass Pro chairman and founder, seemed to like the idea of a Bass Pro in Buffalo.

    "We've got this little red map that our folks do that shows the intensity -- where there's a big gathering and concentration of people who love the outdoors," Morris said in 2004. "That's one of the things that got us excited about this opportunity, realizing how many [fishermen and hunters there are here] and the concentration and the natural resources of this part of the world."

    But the years passed. It took longer to fulfill Masiello's challenge than it took NASA to meet President John F. Kennedy's challenge in 1961 to land a man on the moon and return him safely to the Earth.

    What's holding up final agreement? a Bass Pro spokesman was asked in 2005.

    "It's such a big project. These things take time," spokesman Larry Whiteley said.

    Assorted public officials today tried to put the best face on the situation.

    "They're not coming, but they never were," Rep. Brian Higgins, D-Buffalo, said this afternoon. "The good thing is, we are going to make something of this waterfront, and for the first time in nine years, it's within our control as a community to make the best waterfront that will accrue to the life quality and economic vitality of the city and entire region."

    The chairman of the Common Council's waterfront committee says he's glad the city finally has "a yes or no answer" from Bass Pro.

    Michael P. Kearns said the positive side is that the region now has $35 million that can be reappropriated for other shoreline-related priorities.

    "This was an anchor tenant that didn't want to be here, and I think [Bass Pro has] known that for a long time," Kearns said.

    The challenge now, Kearns added, is to try to lure other development to Canal Side, even if such ventures don't fall into the "anchor store" status.

    "I don't think this gives us a black eye," Kearns said. "I think it gives us a fresh start."
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    also forgot to post my opinion, good we dont need a glorified dicks on our waterfront, so now where do we go, what would you like to see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashingt View Post
    also forgot to post my opinion, good we dont need a glorified dicks on our waterfront, so now where do we go, what would you like to see?
    A waterfront pro-football stadium for the Bills would be ideal.

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    move the zoo, a bills stadium, an ampitheatre (sp?) for good shows, tittybars, just a few suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kritter65 View Post
    A waterfront pro-football stadium for the Bills would be ideal.
    i'll say no, i've always like something up the buffalo river, but why build a stadium that only gets used from august-december?
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    fuck that, i wanted bass pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashingt View Post
    i'll say no, i've always like something up the buffalo river, but why build a stadium that only gets used from august-december?
    The Bisons could use it, I suppose.


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    You mean Larry Quinn lied ??
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    The problem is that it will take more time to find, negotiate and do all of those artist rendering sketches for another centerpiece in its place. Why on earth did it take so long for the Bass Pro ultimatum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey View Post
    You mean Larry Quinn lied ??
    Here is what I was reffering to with this recent quote (July 19th) by Quinn on the Bass Pro project....

    "It\'s way more than a construction season. There are people on the sidelines willing to commit, who want to see if we\'re serious about waterfront development," says Quinn, the vice-chairman of the Erie Canal Harbor Development Corporation. "If this goes beyond the first week of August, (without Common Council approval), is seriously jeopardizing it."

    "It" is news on the horizon over the next few weeks, Quinn promises.

    "I\'m sure the next question out of everyone\'s mouth is where is Bass Pro in all of this," Quinn told reporters. "I\'m supremely confident that this project, in the next month or two, is going to reveal that we are probably building the largest project in the City of Buffalo\'s History."

    Give them 30 to 45 days, and Quinn says you\'ll be shocked.


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    a stadium can bring in huge concerts too FWIW

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    I've been down to Canal Side. It's ill protected from the winter weather. But it's a great venue for summer attractions. I like the idea of having temporary street vendors in addition to year round attractions. Imagine Buffalo having an indoor water park, with a connected hotel. Right on the waterfront. Then imagine tha very same water park having an open air water park available during the summer. Or during the winter time, create a semi permanent winter park in collusion with the Powder Keg Festival. I want to see Buffalo cater to boating and sailing enthusiasts not unlike Put-in Bay in Cleveland. Create a venue for boaters and sailors to come to land to party and have a good time.

    If I were a boater, why should I anchor in Buffalo? Duggs' Dive? Come on. Give me a venue where people are. Beautiful people. Not necessarily a beach, but a place for social contracting. A Chippewa district on the water front.

    if I were a family man, why should I come down to the waterfront? Why should I come OFTEN?

    People come to the water front every once in a while. But NOTHING keeps them there. That's what is necessary.

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    If you're thinking stadium on the waterfront, look at what Cleveland has done. I don't know if it has been successful, but what they have is the Browns stadium right on the water, they have a museum of some sort, and the rock and roll hall of fame. I went down there in the summer a few years ago and it wasn't exactly jumping.

    I like the idea of extending the canals further into downtown. With that, when they freeze over, they offer an interesting venue to ice skate.

    If a waterfront stadium is looked at, instead of large open wide parking lots, there will be parking garages. This does not allow for tailgating. But, it'll look better than a stadium surrounded by large open parking lots on the waterfront.

    But other than a stadium, what will keep people coming to the waterfront?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Famous View Post
    If you're thinking stadium on the waterfront, look at what Cleveland has done. I don't know if it has been successful, but what they have is the Browns stadium right on the water, they have a museum of some sort, and the rock and roll hall of fame. I went down there in the summer a few years ago and it wasn't exactly jumping.

    I like the idea of extending the canals further into downtown. With that, when they freeze over, they offer an interesting venue to ice skate.

    If a waterfront stadium is looked at, instead of large open wide parking lots, there will be parking garages. This does not allow for tailgating. But, it'll look better than a stadium surrounded by large open parking lots on the waterfront.

    But other than a stadium, what will keep people coming to the waterfront?
    That got me thinking, do we really care about people coming to the waterfront ? It just dawned on me : I don't give a shit about waterfront development nor the city of Buffalo. Maybe we should just let it rot and and erode into Lake Erie.


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    Good.

    A 10 year plan hinging on a retarded idea like this is laughable anyway...

    There are like 50 bass pro shops in the country.... You can literally build them anywhere, so this being a big deal is just a microcosm of the problems in the buffalo government.

    I really feel bad for the city, it's my hometown and they are failing at being as successful as fucking Cleveland.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Famous View Post
    But other than a stadium, what will keep people coming to the waterfront?
    Bars and restaurants and hotels and fun shit to do all year long.

    Docks for boats in the summer, ice skating in the winter. Have fire pits and cool shit in the fall and spring. This city is based on drinking and partying. Put a huge ass Chippewa right on the water, and it will be real nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWIWMyNameIsJoe View Post
    Buffalo in 20 years to look like Detroit in Robocop (e4)
    detroit looks like that already.

    another big story, hsbc wants that empty lot across from the hsbc arena, if they dont get it, they may be leaving buffalo.

    and a stadium will not bring people down there year round. does ralph wilson bring people to OP?
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